Perhaps a quarter of the people I see with OCD/scrupulosity have, at one time or another, suffered obsessions about committing “the unpardonable sin,” or “the sin against the Holy Spirit.” Nothing can give them satisfying reassurance that they haven’t done it. They ask their pastors. They pray about it. They read certain consoling bible verses over and over. Still, the fearful thought strikes: “What if I have committed the unpardonable sin?”

The frightening results of committing it are addressed in three quite similar passages found in the synaptic gospels (Matt 12:31, Mark 3:28, and Luke 12:10). In Matthew, for instance, we find:  “Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.” (KJV).

This is a very difficult passage, indeed. The entire thrust of the New Testament centers on God’s love and forgiveness. Even right here in this verse, Jesus starts off by saying that all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven. But then he says that no, there is actually something that is never forgiven! What’s that all about? Then, why would it be a sin against the Holy Spirit, and not against Jesus or God? Furthermore, Jesus said these words even before the Holy Spirit came in Pentecost. So, what was he talking about anyway? It’s no wonder that OCDers get hung up on this.

The standard interpretation of the foreboding passage is based on the context of Jesus’ words. He was speaking to Pharisees who had accused him of being in league with Satan when performing his miracles. Thus, for instance, the NIV suggests that the unpardonable sin is “attributing to Satan Christ’s miracles done in the power of the Holy Spirit.” The Jerome bible suggests it is, “witnessing the works of the Holy Spirit and declaring them evil.” These exegetical attempts are of no help at all to OCDers. This is one place in the bible where we need input from great Christian saints.

Saint Augustine, as usual, has valuable things to say, He offers the following definition of the unpardonable sin. “Whosoever he be that believeth not man’s sins to be remitted in the Church of God, and therefore despiseth the bounteous mercies of God, if he continue in his obstinate mind till death, he is guilty of sin against the Holy Ghost.” Here, Augustine suggests that the person who commits this sin is one who continues to turn away from God until death. It makes sense, because when Jesus was talking to the Pharisees he would have known that they were incorrigible to the end. This is helpful for OCDers, because it offers hope for the future, no matter how they are feeling at the moment.

It is Martin Luther, however, who provides the most helpful commentary. Perhaps that is because he himself suffered from blasphemous thoughts. He writes, “There are two kinds of blasphemy. First, there is active blasphemy when we consciously and intentionally look for reasons to blaspheme…. But second, there is passive blasphemy, when the devil introduces such perverse thoughts into our heads against our will and in spite of our struggle against them. By means of these thoughts, God wishes to occupy us so that we don’t get lazy and snore, but fight against them and pray.” Luther actually called it a “good sign” when people are bothered by such blasphemies, because it indicates that God’s plan is working in them in order to bring them closer to him.

Luther’s comments are spectacularly insightful. First of all, his definition of “passive blasphemy” nails what we now consider to be defining characteristics of an obsession (“against our will and in spite of our struggle against them”). Secondly, he makes it clear that these thoughts are from the enemy. My OCD friends, whether you choose to look on obsessional blasphemies as coming directly from the devil, or as coming from OCD (as I often encourage OCDers to do), these thoughts are most certainly from the enemy. They are not from you. They take us away from God. Fortunately, as Luther points out, if we can recognize them for what they are and fight them correctly, we can as a result of them grow closer to God through faith.

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  • Richard G  April 2, 2016 at 3:31 am

    Thank you for writing this article! Since returning to my faith, it seems as though every waking second of life is bombarded with blasphemous thoughts and ideas, and the especially debilitating and frightening ones involve the Holy Spirit. It’s been making it extremely difficult to focus during prayers and liturgies and it’s given me constant spiritual distress that leaves me feeling very distant from God. I thought I was completely alone and damned beyond saving. But after reading this article and discovering all the others out there who have struggled with this exact terror, I’ve been filled with relief and the determination to never give in to the forces of darkness that plague me. God bless you

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    • Drew  April 8, 2016 at 9:22 pm

      Richard, you are not alone! I have terrible thoughts about the holy spirit that leave me feeling sick to stomach and filled with panic. I suffer feom obsessive thoughts. No one can understand unless they have been through it. No amount of reassurance is enough when these thoughts happen. I have been hospitalized twice because of it.

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      • Asher  March 4, 2019 at 4:08 am

        I was fighting depression and anxiety and went to churches for help from some pastors and didnt get any. But I was praying and seeking help. Then one day out of the blue I was on the bus and I started to hear in my mind cursing against the holy spirit. My mind was under attack, I was shocked and didnt know what it was all about. I was scared and shocked, my chest stated to hurt. I read up on the unpardonable sin and my mind got worse, bad thoughts beyond my control calling the holy spirit all manner of evil in my head for weeks. During all of the attacks I kept crying out to God to deliver me and he didnt. I had to keep rebuking them and casting them down. I was horrified. I hated the thoughts. I felt hurt because I love God. I felt I comitted the unpardonable sin. During all that attack I kept my mouth shut. NONE pass my mouth. I was attacked at home, college and church. I believe it was a demon assigned by someone cursing me or by satan himself. It’s only yesterday God said in church through the pastor to give him whats been bothering you to him and I did. I told God I hated all those thoughts and to take them away and renounced them all and asked him to return them to sender. I feel better today and can think more clearly. I just dont know what it was all about. But I have heard so many people on forums go through the exact same thing and close to it

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    • Candy  June 6, 2018 at 4:43 am

      I am currently going through this now! Prayers please and thank Our God for loving me and getting me through every day!

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    • Mark  June 14, 2018 at 1:39 am

      Mate it’s good to know we aren’t on our own , and anyway take the thoughts as a complement because satan is paying out on us now because he can’t have us . GODBless

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  • thomas crawford  May 29, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    i have had these for 3 years and often want to swear at the holy spirit. Here is the bottom line. The holy spirit is perfect, wonderful and is helping. Keep relaxed and never let yourself get truly about the Spirit. This is not his fault and He should always been praised even though our OCD wants to crank.

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    • Nancy Robert  May 17, 2019 at 10:18 pm

      I have been attacked and suffered for years with the onslaught of unwanted disgusting and horrific unGodly thoughts. The moment I found out there was a sin in the Bible that was unforgivable in the Word of God I came under attack. We all know who the unbelievers ascribed the works of Jesus to….the opposite of love, peace, joy, abundant and eternal love – to the murderer, the liar, the tempter, the hater of good and all that is lovely.

      So the devil comes into our heads and says the same things as those unbelievers and we are horrified, frightened beyond all imagination, ill in our souls because we KNOW that Jesus is the one and only Son of God. We KNOW who He is.

      So, having struggled with these unwanted and blasphemous thoughts for a very, very long time about a month ago I started saying in my head…silly as it may seem….”Jesus is a walrus”……of course I do not believe that but I have replaced the horrific thoughts that I do not believe with another avenue. Something other than the disgusting thoughts want me to cower and run from. So instead of blasphemous thoughts I now know how stupid the old wicked devil is who wanted to make me think these thoughts would separate me from Heaven, Thankfully I have never thought that Jesus was a walrus (again so very silly) so no matter how many times my inner thoughts repeat non stop this thought it is not what I believe. It is all BELIEF. If we confess our sins and speak with our mouth that Jesus is Lord we WILL BE SAVED!

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      • admin  May 18, 2019 at 6:38 am

        I see how that can be helpful, because it really changes your perspective on the obsessional thoughts. It reminds you how crazy they are. But watch out that this does not become a compulsive act. You will know it does if you start having to repeat saying “Jesus is a walrus.”

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  • mo  December 27, 2016 at 2:37 am

    It is so hard to find help with blasphemous thoughts. I suffer immensely from intrusive thoughts only. I have many bad thoughts but the worst is against the holy spirit. My thoughts get worse when I am stressed out. The thoughts will feel so real like I committed the ultimate sin and now I’m going to hell. I have felt so scared that I have physically ran out of buildings and stores-its quite embarrassing. I just tell people that I am having a panic attack which is true. But the thoughts about denying Christ start the panic attacks. I will hear God you suck, I hate you, I want to leave God. I will see images of blasphemy of the holy spirit in my mind. Even now writing this out I feel anxious thinking, “Please God don’t leave me.” I am always asking God for reassurance not to leave me. I will hear “that’s it I am done with you God, I quit you God! You are the worst God. Its your fault I am like this, I hate you.” I really love God and wished I had a peace of mind instead of great torment.

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    • admin  December 27, 2016 at 8:12 am

      That’s clear-cut OCD, Mo. From our Christian perspective, it is the enemy producing a trial of faith. In cases like this, when faith is seemingly absent and fear rules, sometimes we need to just endure the severe uncertainty and fear produced by the blasphemous images without trying ourselves to get rid of them. We have to stay on the battlefield, but leave the battle, which is a spiritual one, to the Lord. We’ve got to just suffer on the cross with Jesus and wait for faith to be revealed. That’s the point of it all. We will learn that we can trust in God.

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    • Brenton  May 17, 2017 at 10:11 pm

      It’s a constant fear it’s very tormenting it has been on my mind for 3 years I pray to GOD about it even cry, it’s a since of doom from the time I wake up to the time I go to sleep I battle with it constantly I just wish I had an off switch but I’m going to keep going in the faith and have faith that GOD can get us out of this mental frightful struggle

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  • Kj  January 20, 2017 at 10:03 pm

    Hi, have suffered from blasphemous thoughts myself ,horrible horrible thoughts against God and the blessed Holy Spirit, I don’t mean them..I even talk to myself trying hard to redirect thoughts ..however sometimes I end up having a slip of the tongue and say something I shouldnt…there’s been times..I say something and then all of a sudden realize afterward I said it. ..I’m not sure how to explain it..but I’ll say something to redirect then I feel like I keep hearing ..oh no you didn’t say that but you said it against the Holy Spirit..and im.sure i didnt yet ,I have doubts .I repent and repent ..I feel God yet I feel like I’m doomed…. what I do did say something I shouldnt have to the Holy Spirit or to God..I’m so confused anymore and Everytime I think I have the victory it comes back..I’m so afraid of the unpardonable sin, how can I be sure I haven’t committed it.i have never spoken against the Holy Spirit, yes I have talked to myself in a attack of blasphemous thoughts and said things I don’t mean ..what. I do? I love the Lord ..I want to be a good Christian…pls help me

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    • admin  January 21, 2017 at 6:27 am

      Kj, that seems to be exactly what we are talking about in this website: OCD striking in the religious realm. There is definitely hope! God will use this to bring you closer to him. I suggest you start by learning about OCD treatment. Seeing an OCD-therapist would be a good idea. Hang in there, Dr O

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  • Kj  January 21, 2017 at 7:06 am

    Thank you, I will see what I can do about finding a good therapist…. it’s so very hard ,when I woke up a bit ago I woke up talking myself , something so blasphemous came out ,I was just moving my lips..I have done this before..I don’t know why I did..its like I was part asleep and part awake…I love the Lord, I so badly want to do His will…I am.faithful to be in church, read the Bible, pray , I have given up so many things to serve God and would give up more…does this play a part of OCD also things like this happening ? Anyway, if you could answer this last thing for me I would appreciate it..thank you and may God bless you

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    • admin  January 21, 2017 at 9:30 am

      yes, this can definitely happen with ocd, and it is of course very terrifying. it’s all part of the ocd problem. A good resource for finding therapsts is the “obsessive-compulsive foundtion.” they have a website. you can call them and find out if there is an ocd specialist in your area. Usually, university departments of psychiatry or psychology also have good therapists. also, you can learn a great deal from reading good books on ocd treatment, such as ‘the ocd workbook.’

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  • Bl  January 21, 2017 at 3:04 pm

    As a young man I was completely confident God forgave all sin. Then in my Bible study I came across the unpardonable sin. I took this verse to mean taking the Holy Spirits name in vain. For weeks I thought about this. I had heard the Lords name taken in vain countless times but never the Holy Spirits. Whether it was OCD or temptation of my own flesh I finally gave in. I took the Spirits name in vain. Since then I have lost countless numbers of hours and days to fear and dread to loosing my salvation and rejecting God’s gift. I hear many alternative views to the verse and I always feel to be the exception. I am in therapy and finding this site is a Miracle from God! Thank you for the work you do here. I am eternally greatful!

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  • Mary M  February 17, 2017 at 3:59 am

    live in anxiety whole year. It started when I was thinking about Holy Spirit and somehow come to my mind that Holy Spirit is stupid. When I´ve realised what I was thinking about I said to myself with fear that it ´s not true, Holy Spirit is not stupid and He is God. I felt sorry about that and apologised, but than I start thinking that I probably crossed the line and blasphemed Holy Spirit. At that time I was home because of depression and than it became worst. Nothing could help. I ve repead over and over, that the one who comes to Jesus will not be cast out. But what about people which blasphemed Holy Spirit? Jesus said that they never has forgivness.
    And than has happend something else. I was thinking about some manifestations at church, I ve started to doubt it and finally I said to myself that it cant be from God, that it is not his work and it is nowhere in the Bible. And after that again I started fear that I maybe said something against Holy Spirit´s work. And now I dont know what to do. I´m praying to God everyday that I cant live in such insecurity whether he has forgave me or not. It´s so hard when you dont know most important thing in your life and you dont know where to turn. My pastor said, that it is ok when I havent said it out loud … but I think that words are just expressions of our thoughts and its mostly the same. Please someone could help?

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    • admin  March 1, 2017 at 6:38 am

      Mary, that really sounds like OCD. It’s called the “doubting disease,” and those are very common obsessional fears. I think God is using this so that you can learn to put more trust in him. You need to learn about OCD, though. Do you think you could venture to see a therapist?

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    • Hazel  September 13, 2017 at 10:06 am

      I developed major OCD after taking fertility treatment. The hormones really played with my mind and, after 2 miscarriages, I was a real low point. I still suffer with OCD but know that God is so much bigger than any thought or statement I could make. Once, at a real low point, I was praying to God asking him to help me get out of it. I heard an audible voice say ‘I am not going to punish you for a thought or word said in anger’. ‘Now relax and enjoy life’. Interestingly, I hadn’t even been angry, just fearful. It was as though God had said – not only won’t I condemn you for OCD, but I wouldn’t even condemn you if you did it on purpose. God is amazing and so very loving. I am utterly convinced that his plan for our life is not to live in fear, but to joyfully trust Him with our eternity.

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    • samantha  May 17, 2018 at 7:41 pm

      I pray that this have gotten better for you. Just know that your not alone hang on to the faith you have and never let God go. I suffer from ocd as well and recently have felt like I have committed this as well. But sometimes are thoughts are not our own.

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  • Linda Puckett  March 2, 2017 at 10:30 am

    May God, through these words which Dr. O wrote sometime back, bring you peace ….Martin Luther, speaking directly to OCDers struggling with scrupulosity, comments on this situation and suggests a more helpful strategy:  “I am saying this for the comfort of those who are perpetually troubled by thoughts of blasphemies and are in great anxiety…The more horrible and foul the blasphemy, the more agreeable it is to God, if the heart knows that it does not will this, because the heart did not produce it or choose it. It is a sign that a man did not will it from his heart and that he is really innocent of it, if he is truly afraid and terrified that he has done such a thing. For the clearest sign of a good heart is the fear of doing evil. Therefore the remedy for these thoughts is not to be worried about them.”
    To “not worry about them”…what interesting advice for people who have unpardonable blasphemies on their minds! Yet Luther knew a great deal about blasphemous obsessions (he had himself suffered from them), and here he shows great insight. These terrible thoughts are actually nothing to worry about, because God knows our hearts; and he knows that obsessions do not come from us, but rather from the enemy (OCD–or if you prefer, Satan working through OCD). Luther even says the blasphemous thoughts are “agreeable” to God. Is he kidding? No, because they provide an opportunity for a person to show great faith by leaving the fighting of them to God. And it is faith that God values more than anything else we can give to him.
    So, if we are to follow Luther’s advice, what should we do about “unpardonable sin” obsessions when they strike? Here are three steps to take (the “LAF” method).
    1. LABEL the thought as an obsession. The importance cannot be overemphasized. If it looks or feels anything like an obsession, make the call.
    2. ATTRIBUTE the thought to the enemy (OCD), yet know that God, who has ultimate power over all that happens in the universe, is allowing the enemy to bring the tormenting thought into your mind in order educate you. What God wants is for you to leave the situation to him, and by that means to learn to trust in him. Don’t try to escape the thought by reassuring yourself over and over that you haven’t committed the sin, or praying for forgiveness compulsively, or fighting off the thoughts in any way. Don’t try to reason with them, or cancel them out with good thoughts. Let them be there. Stay on the battlefield, yet give the fighting to God. The correct attitude is, “I don’t care that the ugly thought came, and I don’t care if it stays there all day and bothers me. It’s all up to God,” and I put my trust in him.
    3. Then, while letting the battle in your mind run on, gently turn your FOCUS to the present task at hand–your work, your recreation, whatever it is at that moment that you ought to be doing.

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    • Rita  December 13, 2018 at 8:34 am

      The Bible says cast down imaginations not let them run in your mind.

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      • Kelly  January 3, 2019 at 9:20 pm

        Rita trust me I try to and it’s hard . I talk to myself to redirect thoughts and he enemy comes against me and tells me that I have committed the unpardonable sin no matter how much I repent . It’s horrible I’m like Brenton I suffer in torment from the time I get up till I go to sleep what little I do sleep . I don’t know what peace is and I pray and pray I love the Lord so much and want to serve him so much and I continue to fail him . I cannot keep those thoughts away .

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        • Vince  March 19, 2019 at 7:24 am

          How are you doing now?

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  • Kathy Brown  March 15, 2017 at 10:00 pm

    I just read this thread tonight and can say that I feel somewhat relieved to know that others struggle with this as well. I’ve been a Christian for a long time, but have no feelings of love toward God/Jesus. I have also been diagnosed with OCD/Scrupulosity. I want to love God, but the combination of OCD and some legalistic teachings at the beginning of my Christian walk have given me a distorted view of God. I too feel guilty about enjoying “things” more than God, thereby making me an idolater.

    Thanks again for the article and responses and also for reading my comments. Kathy

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    • Ked  February 15, 2019 at 10:00 pm

      Kathy, I completely understand where you’re coming from. I’m currently battling this. I’m afraid that my thoughts aren’t blasphemous but how I really feel. I have so many questions as to why God does some things. I’m afraid it’s not ocd and it’s actually how I feel or what I really believe. I feel as though if I were to label it as ocd, that I’d be lying to myself and not taking it seriously enough. I could go on for days about what I’m thinking and how it makes me feel. I always have a rebuttal to the advice I’m given. I’m afraid one day I’m going to lose everyone around me because they’ll be tired of me. I’m afraid that by doing erp and self care that I’ll end up not believing in God anymore. I’ve read of many Christians who turn away from their faith and are “set free” from their scrup ocd. That scares me. I can’t seem to enjoy anything. I’m afraid that I’m not taking hell seriously enough. And that I’m a terrible witness to anyone that doesn’t believe. Because honestly who would want to have the same faith as someone who is so miserable. At the point, nothing gives me hope or peace. Not to mention I know how crazy this sounds and fear I’m attention seeking and wanting people to feel sorry for me.

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      • Vince  March 19, 2019 at 7:40 am

        Dear Kathy I’m in the same spot, hang on to Jesus Christ, please let me know how you are doing. I’m struggling with this myself.

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      • Roderick  May 7, 2019 at 5:53 pm

        The people who Leave Christ and their OCD Goes away is because OCD attacks what is most important to you. When I was Younger I believed In Christ and Intrusive thoughts, but then I stopped believing and they went away. But after I came back to Christ they came back. If Christ isnt important to you than you wouldn’t be obsessing over pleasing him enough. Read this https://livingart77.wordpress.com/2015/06/14/help-my-unbelief-religious-ocd-a-valid-and-excruciating-disorder/

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  • Terry Schwartz  March 23, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    Dear troubled souls,
    I struggled with this OCD obsession and fear about blasphemy against the Holy Spirit for years. Looking at the biblical passage is most helpful. The thought or words (it says spoken) have to be “against” the Holy Spirit. Obviously these thoughts, although perhaps disgusting and blasphemous if they were intended by you are certainly not against the Spirit. They are on the order of “if you think of an elephant in the living room you will die.” No one could cancel this thought and the threat of death would make the mind even more apt to think the thought.
    One more thing to keep in mind. The text says (translated properly from Greek) that the person who blasphemies against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this age (that is now) or in the age to come. That would be the Millennium age. After that age they would of course be forgiven.
    Luther got so angry at Satan that he one time threw a bottle of ink at him. I think ignoring the mental intrusion is best since it obviously is not your will to be speaking against the Holy Spirit.

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  • Brittany Odle  March 23, 2017 at 8:32 pm

    I have been dealing with this for 3 years. And Jesus is faithfulllll. Please dont believe these thoughts are you. This is all stemmed from fear. God said He didnt give us a spirit of fear ( worry,doubt, fear, confusion, all evil thoughts) HE gave us a Spirit of Power and Love and Sound Mind. Trust in Jesus. God had me do this new thing write down what battle your dealing with, write the time and day and how long it lasted and what happened and what you did. Did you praise and thank Jesus throgh the storm or complained and feared?? Remember has God failed you or let you fail??? No so trust Him dont fear its you. Rebuke the thoughts use Gods Word and praise and thank Jesus for everythung. Get your mind on something thank Him for loving you. You love you. You can do this we can do all things through Jesus Christ who strengthens us. Remember to confess yours sins of (fear worry doubt etc) because those are sins because there against God not trusting Him. Dont choosr unforgiveness or you will be tormented liek never bfore like i am because i wamt leave my husband. Dont do what i did. Forgive always. Love no anger that brings that baddd. Did God say fear anything but fear Him only. Trust Jesus. Start writing that Jesus got you through the day. Call out to Him. Thank Him for good and bad ♡♡♡ if you want to talk email me jesuscaresforyou777@yahoo.com also i have a site of my journal what i felt God taught me.

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  • Robert Waters  April 29, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    I’m retired Lutheran pastor with OCD who runs an email support group for Christians with scrupulosity, as religious OCD is known. Members of the group have found this helpful. Maybe you will, too.

    1. Blasphemy, by its very definition, must be spoken out
    loud. “Blasphemous thoughts” are thoughts that would be blasphemy if uttered. No matter how nasty a thought may be, thoughts cannot be blasphemy unless they are uttered. Even if the thoughts somehow could be blasphemy,…

    2….. Jesus says in the very statement in which He speaks of the Unpardonable Sin that ALL blasphemies will be forgiven, whatever their content- but that THE blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be. It is obvious from this that since THE blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is not included in “ALL blasphemies,” it must be something very different from merely saying something nasty about God (again, thinking something nasty about God, if it is not uttered out loud, cannot be blasphemy in the first place). It is unique.

    3. Since Jesus says categorically that He will never, under any circumstances (the Greek says mh ouk, an intensifier that means “No way, Jose!”) cast out anyone who comes to Him, it is obvious that nothing that does not prevent a person from wanting to come to Jesus can be the unforgivable sin.

    4. It follows from that that a person who wants to be forgiven cannot have committed the unpardonable sin. If you recall, Hebrews makes that very point: a person who has committed the unforgivable sin cannot be restored to repentance.

    5. In any event, “pop up” thoughts are not sins of any kind, which means that regardless of their content, they do not need forgiveness. And it is in the nature of OCD that if we fear that “pop up” thoughts come from us, it will “feel” to us like they do. That does not change the fact that if we hate the thought, it either a) is an OCD thought, in which case it is not even a sin; or b) since we hate and fear the thought, we have repented, cannot have committed the unpardonable sin, and are forgiven.

    I’m afraid you just can’t get around it. Even if a thought you hate or that you wish you hadn’t had is sinful, no matter what the origin, all you have to do is to accept Jesus’s forgiveness and you have nothing to be afraid of. You have repented. Then, whatever else may happen, you may be certain, first, that you have not committed the unpardonable sin; and secondly, that you are forgiven.

    If its OCD, it’s not a sin; if it’s a sin, it’s forgiven- and if you hate the thought, that is proof that you have not committed the unpardonable sin.

    Any way you look at it, if you’re worried about having committed the Unforgivable Sin, you have no reason to be.

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    • Catherine  August 28, 2017 at 2:02 pm

      What if I have said things out loud to God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit?Can that be forgiven? I have had OCD/Scrupulocity before it was even called that. Since 1979. And I’ve heard sermons about “crossing God’s deadline.. and it was almost like I couldn’t get my mind off of it…kinda like the “don’t look at the pink elephant thing”.. it was like “don’t say such and such” and eventually I said it. So now I think that I’m doomed to hell because I didn’t maintain control over my mind and my mouth. It seems like I don’t have any feelings for God or Jesus. I don’t seem to have any love whatsoever for people. I have always thought of myself growing up as being bad and not being able to love.. I feel like I’m the worst person that ever lived. I hope that i’m forgiven…i’ve asked Jesus to forgive me 100’s of times probably.

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      • Austin  October 9, 2017 at 2:14 am

        There are video testimonies on youtube of satanists who have came to Christ who claim to have wanted nothing to do with Jesus. He forgave them, he will forgive you, even if spoken aloud. Those thoughts come from a lack of understanding of who God is and what Jesus did for us. He doesnt punish us for that lack of understanding but rather, he lets us have the thought so that we draw nearer to him. We must draw nearer to him everyday and hand it over to him and he will NOT forsake you. Never. He loves you, no matter what.

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    • Angel  July 15, 2018 at 7:33 pm

      What’s the support website or email?

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    • phil kaunesis  November 21, 2018 at 2:13 am

      Hi Mr. Waters. I would luv to join your email support group. Pls. email me at kustom2@optusnet.com.au

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  • Dee  July 22, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    Some counselors have you say your bad thought out loud as exposure/response prevention. I am trying so hard to fight this battle. In consequence, I have said it out liud by myself or with my counselor in order to stop the OCD.

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    • Deedee  July 24, 2017 at 9:21 am

      Dee July 22, 2017 at 3:05 pm

      I’m scared. Your “out loud” comment…

      Some counselors have you say your bad thought out loud as exposure/response prevention. I am trying so hard to fight this battle. In consequence, I have said it out loud by myself or with my counselor in order to stop the OCD.

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      • admin  July 24, 2017 at 10:04 am

        this is a common problem: to say the thoughts out loud seems either morally offensive, too difficult, or outright sinful. there are ways to look at this process that make sense from the christian perspective. i’ve talked about them in some other blog posts. sometimes the problem seems unsurmountable, and in that case other approaches can be used aside from this particular exposure exercise.

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  • john  August 13, 2017 at 10:13 am

    This blog is a gift from the Lord… THAT I CAN’T DOUBT!
    I so relate to each and everyone of you. Trying to explain it to someone who hasn’t been through it cannot relate. It’s like trying to explain to someone that’s been blind since birth what the color purple looks like… Impossible. I’m so grateful to God He put this site in our lives so we can encourage one another! One amazing story I’ve read – over and over – is the biography of John Bunyan “Grace Abounding”! He went through the ocd nightmare for years, but he didn’t have the benefit of the web or others who went through it. But, he fought the good fight and struggled to trust Christ no matter what. Sometimes he even had to physically hold his mouth shut with his hands so as not to speak blasphemies. Even though we hate the thoughts it can be a strange kind of temptation. Sometimes when I’m on the top of a very tall edifice, I get the urge to jump. I have no idea why but it is somewhat similar, although the consequences do not come close to the evil thoughts and fears of the unpardonable sin.

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    • Stacy  July 1, 2018 at 10:09 pm

      Thank God for this website. Like more of you said NO ONE understands unless they been through it. We all need to pray for each other and that we remain in the battle as sometimes I just get tired and weary and want to give up what seems so hopeless. Thanks everyone for sharing

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  • Crystal  October 11, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    I can relate to you all. I try not to be envious of the joyous types that are constantly secure with a strong faith from the moment they believe and never doubt it. How glorious it must be to have a relationship with god like that and never fear they have committed the unpardonable sin or doubt their salvation.
    I struggle a lot and honestly sometimes i fear that i must love my sin more than god because i seem to fall into it without much struggle or fight against it.
    I guess we are all asking questions God has to work in each of us individually the answers. Even though we dont know each other we should pray for each other.
    Salvation is serious. eternity is a long time to be wrong. Lord help us to know we trust fully in you and have repented according to the scriptures.

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    • M.G  October 24, 2017 at 5:26 pm

      Wow,wow,wow! My heart goes out to everyone of you. And yes I think we should definitely be praying for each other. I’m just now overcoming this Scrupulosity OCD thanks to a friend/life coach/counselor who told me about a book titled SWITCH ON YOUR BRAIN by Dr. Caroline Leaf. She is a Christian neuroscientist and also has several YouTube videos. I’m currently doing her 21-day brain detox. This is a total God SENT!!!

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  • M.G  October 24, 2017 at 5:34 pm

    For me all it took was one bad thought against God out of frustration that sent me spiraling down with serious OCD. It was a bombardment of intrusive, blasphemous, sexual, perverted thoughts toward Father God, JESUS, and Holy Spirit. Not to mention all the fear, anxiety, panic attacks, insomnia, loss of appetite, guilt, shame, condemnation, and constant need for reassurance that I was saved. For awhile even my intimacy with hubby was affected for fear I would have bad thoughts. So yes again my heart goes out to you all. Can’t describe the relief to find other believers that can truly understand me. Love you all and will pray!
    Psalm 107:20 He sent His Word to heal them and to deliver them out of their destructions

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  • Jamiara  October 26, 2017 at 10:58 am

    So I can’t control my thoughts and I read about the unforgivable sin which is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and ever since ive been having blasphemy thoughts about his spirit it got so bad I said it out loud by accident. I’m scared I’m gonna go to hell. I believe in jesus and his spirit is pure and clean. But my thoughts keep saying it’s evil. I know in my heart it’s not

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    • M.G  October 26, 2017 at 7:31 pm

      Jamiara, God knows your heart! The devil is a liar.
      1 John 3:20 says that if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our hearts and knows all things. Please check out that book SWITCH ON YOUR BRAIN. It is changing my life. There is scientific proof that our brains can change by meditating on the scriptures and this book has a 5 step brain detox. The Bible says that we are transformed by the renewing of our minds. Our minds can be renewed no matter how damaging the thoughts, images, etc.

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  • M.G  October 26, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    FYI: this book talks about how meditating is also beneficial for ocd. I should know! I’m
    Feeling and seeing the difference. God is faithful y’all! If we are this concerned about our salvation and offending God more than likely we haven’t. Our struggle is not against flesh and blood

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  • Ron  October 31, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    Has anyone here experienced anhedonia from the fear of committing the unforgivable sin?

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  • Maggie  November 1, 2017 at 1:03 pm

    Hi Ron. That was definitely a part of Scrupulosity OCD for me. I had lost all enjoyment of simple things. I guess it’s because we feel we have failed miserably so nothing else matters but our supposed failures. But the Truth is that God can and does heal and deliver! Whoever the Son sets Free is free indeed.

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  • Rick  November 27, 2017 at 10:45 pm

    To blasphemy the Holy Spirit is to have an irrevalent conviction of the non existence or evilness of the Holy Spirit. Being conflicted by, remorseful of, doughtful about or questioning of your convictions, statements, verbalizations or thoughts is all the evidence needed to know you do not have an irrevalent conviction. Therefore you have not committed the unpardonable sin. Had a person committed this sin they would have no concern, no conflict and no reconsideration. No anxiety or fear would exist in the heart or mind of a person who has committed this sin. Your own unsureness and anguish is all the proof you need that you are not domed to Hell.

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    • M.G.  November 28, 2017 at 5:53 pm

      AMEN TO THAT RICK!

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  • KeshaBesha  March 2, 2018 at 7:40 am

    First and foremost this is a Fear!
    And can progress into anxiety.
    I just prayed and ask God to take this fear from me. So when you feel that fear ask God to remove it. It works.

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  • Kisbel R  March 20, 2018 at 5:02 pm

    Hello! I am a Christian, and I am from Venezuela. I have blasphemous thoughts for 9 long months, and it has been getting worse. I was diagnosed with panic attacks, depressive syndrome and finally OCD. It has been a horrible battle in which I feel that I am involved, because I fall again and again into it. I feel desperate many times because I want to get out of this, but strangely I do not find in me enough strength to get up. I feel horrible because the thoughts already seem to come from my mind and not from outside, and now I struggle to contain them 🙁 I feel very perverse, and I do not understand why it seems that my mind needs to blaspheme 🙁
    During the day I try to recite verses or sing, but it seems useless, because my mind betrays me. This is horrible. I am a mother, wife and housewife, and I can not live my life normally because my existence has been reduced to this battle. To the point of not having the courage to live. I have many doubts about whether I really am a child of God, or even if I love God, since my mind only insults him 🙁
    I feel many times without hope and loss, because I have not managed to overcome this; therefore I am terrified that the Rapture will happen and I will stay, that is, lose my salvation. I need help and a cure desperately.

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    • admin  March 21, 2018 at 8:00 am

      To have OCD, depression, panic attacks at the same time can be a devastating situation. You definitely need to get some help with this. Do not be hesitant to make use of medication. It can be helpful for all three of these problems, and panic disorder is almost always responsive to medication. In addition, I would strongly recommend that you be working with a therapist. Such a tough burden to suffer these problems all together all at once. Please do not hesitate to get some help.

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      • Kisbel R  March 23, 2018 at 9:12 pm

        Thank you very much. I’ll do it.

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  • Gideon  April 17, 2018 at 12:30 pm

    Good article. I too have had these obsessions. I have read now a lot about OCD, but turning the tide of a lifetime’s avoidance is not easily done. Things were tricky for me when I was young at home and I made a few silly mistakes as a teenager, and had a raging panic attack. Some time later I was reading the bible – introduced to me by a friend for some comfort, and read about the unforgivable sin. Man the fear struck me like lightening – especially when I said “the spirit is evil” to myself out loud. That has haunted me for years. Right up until the point when I had so much doubt in my life (not just religion – other extremely important things in my life) – and it was so painfully relentless – I turned furiously and fed up to Jesus in my mind’s eye and dropped the C-bomb on him, telling him I wish I was there when he was crucified. Now this has haunted me more – because I was genuinely angry. Now I seem to get all tied up in knots about if this is unforgivable. I’m assured that it’s not by the Guru’s around and about – but man it still gets under my skin. The countless hours of life I’ve lost to this would be horrendous to count.

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  • K_Seltz13  July 1, 2018 at 11:05 pm

    Hey, @Gideon. That sounds awful. Did you have panic attacks because of an episode of OCD? Also, you’re not alone! Everyone on this website has a story of their faith journey, because of OCD, it can get rocky, but KEEP THE FAITH. “God is faithful and just”. He loves you ENDLESSLY and He cares about every thought, word and deed we do. He wants to perfect us, make us more like Him! You should meditate on the Lord’s prayer- not where you get fearful (Sometimes certain Bible verses scare me) – but you can rejoice in His Word, that He knows you. All of you!
    Lord God, thank You for all that You are to us, and FOR us. Lord, please let each and every one of your children cling to childlike faith in You. Not our will, Yours be done. Help us to better understand our OCD grow closer to You in Love and let You fight our battles!

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  • Chuka  July 11, 2018 at 2:51 am

    I am from Nigeria. I have been having these issues of blasphemy against the Spirit since childhood. It has to say the least affected my Christian progress. At some point even over eating became unpardonable to me.

    Then some years back, I was in church when I suddenly realized I could blasphemy the Spirit in my thoughts. That I could say nasty words in my thoughts and I will be finished. Before the end of that Church service I was convinced I had done it. Then my struggle began.

    Year or 2 later I eventually said it to the Holyspirit. I was far in thoughts If I could actually say it. Was it possible for me to say it in my thoughts. I will begin the sentence and cut it off before I finished it. Then I completed it. It was all in my thoughts tho. I concluded that If I could pray without speaking out. I could also blaspheme without speaking out. So the struggle ensued. You said it. But God has answered some of my prayers since then. I actually preach sermons in church and God has sometimes moved. Yet I had these issues.

    I have read thru the posts. Here is my take. OCD started it, till I failed and spoke it in my mind. If OCD started it, it was not from me till I said it in my mind….So the thoughts are not sin. But I gave in and said it in my thought. That is sin but forgivable. Because that was not from my heart. I actually love God. For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

    So for those who worry, it wasn’t from ur heart. God is willing to forgive U. Even if U said it out loud. Stop obsessing about it.

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  • Laveranues  August 27, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    I’ve been going through this endless purgatory for over 24hrs now and ive been stricken with indescribable fear that God is sending me to hell.Ive cried and cried and cried and as I much as I say I Love Jesus to block out the thought of F the holy spirit or F Jesus it still continues to the point where I’ve given up all hope.My stepmom is religious and tells me that it’s Satan but it’s still torturing me.Please help

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    • admin  August 27, 2018 at 4:34 pm

      You need to get some help for that, Laveranues. Don’t try to just take it on yourself. Talk to your pastor, a counselor, or somebody about it.

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    • laveranues  September 13, 2018 at 4:00 am

      i am going through the same thing but ireally do not mean it and getting paranoid and can’t sleep

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  • Gabe  September 5, 2018 at 12:42 pm

    Thoughts claiming that the holy spirit is of Satan have come to my head scaring and torturing me.Ive cried about this and seek help

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    • Ash  February 28, 2019 at 9:23 am

      I have had the exact same thing in my head. A good few times. I dont believe its me I believe its satan. I hate those thoughts I have earnestly petitioned God and reminsws him that I Asked for a new heart and mind before this happened and during and again because it ia written, whatever you ask in my name it will be given. I have asked for these thoughts to be blocked out and never come back . I’m still waiting for what I’ve asked and deliverance. In the mean time I just rebuke them in jesus name

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  • Maria  September 16, 2018 at 8:58 am

    I’m 23 and have suffered different forms of OCD along the years, being scrupulousity the hardest. My relationships with the Lord has had its peaks and valleys and how curious that when I’m the furthest from Him my OCD is pretty much absent. As I have grown spiritually the intrusive thoughts of direct blasphemous words towards the Holy Spirit are a minor problem, and God has glorified Himself through this by giving me peace and convincing me that I’m saved by His grace. When I thought I could live with it a “new form” of scrupulousity came out, and it’s something like “if you don’t do this that’s blasphemy” fx I’m going to buy bodylotion and this intrusive thought comes: You gotta choose this one cause if you don’t then that’s bad. I still don’t know how to handle it. I’m afraid of not listening to the voice because of fear of losing salvation. Most of the times I repeat “This is not me. I love the Holy Spirit, He is God in me and I don’t blaspheme against Him in any circumstance” I ignore the voice and I feel good, I know everything is fine, but many times I’m led by that fear and listen to the voice and it’s so tiring, it happens all the time and it’s almost disabling. I’m afraid to seek professional help cause it’s like not trusting God has control. I have prayed for freedom from this and I don’t get much, once I was praying and felt like this was the thorn in my flesh and I just have to trust Him. Would going to a psychologist be rebellion or lack of faith? What do you brothers and sisters think? May God keep blessing you all.

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    • Rebecca  September 22, 2018 at 12:37 pm

      Hi Maria,
      I too struggle with scrupulosity. Going to a counselor/psychologist is not rebellion. Seeing a good biblical counselor has been the most helpful thing for me in this. It has reminded me I am not the only one with scrupulosity, and it has helped me continually remember God’s grace in my suffering. My counselor’s approach is one of psychological insight combined with biblical understanding. Scrupulosity may be a spiritual struggle, but it is a psychological one, too. We are body AND soul; the two are intertwined, and we cannot separate that. One of God’s graces in this broken world IS the provision of biblical, gospel-centered counselors/psychiatrists. God understands OCD better than any of us (as hard as that is for me to believe, as I struggle with it!), and he does not want us to struggle with it alone. God has complete control, yes, but he has put others in our lives to remind us and encourage us 🙂 We cannot do this alone.

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  • Megan  October 22, 2018 at 6:50 am

    I suffered from such horrible thoughts and it was like it made me question my belief an salvation I talked with my mom and pastor about it because I don’t want to be without God or our Lord Jesus Christ for eternity and I just got it in my mind that I had to trust God to forgive me and to help me get through this because I do believe an don’t want to hurt God or Jesus an or grieve the precious Holy Spirit and I to worry because of these feelings I get an anxiety because I do believe an when I just took something for my nerves and talked with the Lord about it they have been better I just hope they don’t come back I would never reject Christ but I to get afraid about these things it does make me upset an I don’t want this happening to me

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  • Kelly  January 3, 2019 at 6:06 pm

    I have suffered from blasphemous thoughts they get so bad I have even had things slip out of my mouth . I will get one word stuck in my mind and that’s all it takes to produce a blasphemous thought . I read something here they come .

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  • Sandy  February 19, 2019 at 8:02 pm

    Reading all these comments really helps me feel so much better that I may just go into a field of study in pyschology or something because so many of us are struggling with the very same thing that its inspiring to me that it makes me want to help others to get through their OCD blasphemous thoughts so I pray for you all that you will have victory in Christ Jesus. I’ve been struggling for the last 8 years and it all started one night when I was asleep and for some reason I remembered something I said back in 7th grade and I had a friend who cussed like a sailor and she would always say God’s name in vain which I’m not going to say it in order not to trigger anyone’s thoughts or anything so I’m trying to be as super sensitive as I can be. So yeah that word slipped out of my mouth and I thought oh crap! I’ve blasphemed and boy was I anxious? I couldn’t even function well at work without having someone asking me if I’m okay just by acting weird and making ugly faces. I still do so and Its very hard to stop and now that I’ve come clean to my family about it but not entirely or told them how it all started but with some of my family members I have and it was such a relief but the thoughts just keep coming at me harder and harder and harder to where I pause everytime I walk, move or preventing myself from saying things through my lips from my mind and its just crippling. If only there were more sermons at churches that would talk more openly about mental illnesses, I swear it would be a lot more easier for all of us to cope with our struggles more better. Just as long as none of you give up the fight which I know its really hard but If God really understands our struggle and is still willing to work in us we must not ignore His voice or harden ourselves. There’s truly no sin He can’t forgive cause there’s no condemnation for us that are in Christ. So if anytime a blasphemous or intrusive thought pops into your heads, just say nope, its not me, I deny you Satan, get out! I’ve been bought with the blood of Jesus and with that I’m forgiven! whatever it is you gotta tell yourselves just keep fighting the good fight! God be with us all and He loves you!

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  • Daph  March 14, 2019 at 4:36 pm

    I have had awful blasphemous thoughts against the Holy Spirit and Jesus. It started when I heard about the UPS, I started worrying if I ever did it then someone told me it had to be spoken and saying Jesus cast out devils by the devil then my mind started thinking those thoughts, now I’m scared what if I spoke that stuff. Now I’m so scared. I don’t want to go to hell. What if I spoke that out of my mouth. Dear Lord please help p me. Somebody please help me.

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    • admin  March 14, 2019 at 6:25 pm

      Daph, I feel your pain. You need to do something about this. This is terrifying fear is being allowed by God in order to motivate you. You are promised salvation by him. I encourage you to talk to your pastor. If that doesn’t work, talk to another pastor. The problem, presumably, his OCD, although it could be other problems. Get some help with OCD! The Lord is awaiting you with open arms. Patience is necessary. Often the Lord brings us to hell before he brings us to heaven.

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  • Steven  April 27, 2019 at 9:48 am

    I will give you some additional details on the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, but for you who struggle with OCD, your real freedom will come from understanding the love and mercy of God. How He turns heart towards Him. Understanding His Grace. You need these revelations and you will get them if you study God’s word long enough.

    But to give you some additional insights on blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, you have to understand Jewish history.

    In the Jewish tradition they held the beliefs that they gathered from the Old Testament that when the messiah came he would be able to do certain miracles that no one else could do.

    These would include healing a Jewish leper, healing a man born blind, and casting out a mute demon.

    So when there was a claim that a messianic miracle was done, the Jewish leaders were required to do an investigation, to either validate or deny the claims.

    The Jewish Leaders had been casting out demons long before came. But the only way they could cast out the demons is that they would have to make contact with the demons and find out the demons name and then cast them out.

    So they believed that only the coming messiah would be able to cast out a mute demon, because there would be no way to make contact with the demons name.

    So in Mathew 12 where Jesus speaks about the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, the Pharisees during their investigation were met face to face with one of these miracles that only the Messiah could do.

    It was done in public and the common Jew easily recognized that Jesus did a miracle that only the Messiah could do.

    We know this because in MATTHEW‬ ‭12:23‬, it says “All the crowds were amazed, and were saying, “This man cannot be the Son of David, can he?””

    So the people recognized this miracle and so did the Pharisees. But the Pharisees were so blackened in their heart that for what ever reason (maybe for the love of their positions, their money, or the fact that they personally hated everything Jesus stood for), they openly spoke out and deceived the people saying that Jesus had a demon, even though they knew better (or at a very least should have known better) than almost anyone, that this truly was the Messiah, but they wanted nothing to do with Him.

    This is my take on it, but read it for yourself and make your own determination, but after reading this I don’t see that (at this point at least ) they had actually blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Jesus only said that who ever does blaspheme the Holy Spirit would not be forgiven.

    In fact I read that Jesus still gives them a glimmer of hope. Right after he speaks about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit in Mathew 12, Jesus says to the Pharisees,

    ““Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for the tree is known by its fruit.”
    ‭‭MATTHEW‬ ‭12:33‬

    So Jesus is telling the Pharisees that He just spoke to about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit that they should make their tree good. What’s the point of telling them this if they had no hope.

    Then Jesus gives one more sentence in Mathew that makes me think all hope is not lost.

    The Pharisees ask for a sign “seemingly right after they just saw one of the most convincing signs possible”

    “Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said to Him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from You.” But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet; for just as J ONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”
    ‭‭MATTHEW‬ ‭12:38-40‬ ‭NASB‬‬

    So Jesus is telling the Pharisees, you want another sign “ok”, I’ll give you one – but this is the only sign that will be given.

    So Jonah the sign would be that just as Jonah spent three nights in the belly of the fish and then in a sense rose out of the fish, Jesus would spend three nights in the grave and raise again. That’s a big sign, to prove that He was who He said He was.

    Well Jesus gave them that sign, and we read later in Mathew what there response was to the resurrection.

    Mathew 28 says “While the women were on their way, some of the guards went into the city and reported to the chief priests all that had happened. After the chief priests had met with the elders and formed a plan, they gave the soldiers a large sum of money and instructed them: “You are to say, ‘His disciples came by night and stole Him away while we were asleep.”

    In all fairness the plot to conceal the truth was done by the chief priest and elders and not the Pharisees. And I don’t know how they differed, but reading the gospels they were all on the same page about Jesus and in communication with each other.

    But here we see that the Chief priest believed with their whole heart that Jesus rose from from dead, the last sign that Jesus said He would give. I would imagine the chief priests would have known that Jesus had done every miracle that only the Messiah could have done. So these people believed with all their heart that Jesus was the Messiah because they devised a plan to conceal the truth and cover it up with a lie. They believed the what the guards said about how Jesus rose from the dead. But for whatever reason Their hearts were so black that even though believed with all their heart Jesus was the Lord; Jesus was NOT going to be their Lord. Not only that they were going to do everything possible with full knowledge of the truth to deceive people and spend the rest of their lives trying to take people to Hell with them.

    Do you see how black a heart has to be to do this, their is absolutely no good in them. They have literally let their hearts become Just as dark as satan.

    It is just my opinion based on what I know of the things I shared above is when they blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

    You see these guys did not care about their salvation, in fact they knowingly aligned theirselves with satan and committed themselves to knowingly bringing people to Hell with them.

    I don’t see anyone wanting to return to God through Jesus has ever seen and been convinced of such truth only to turn their back on it all to turn into a satanist, spending their lives trying to bring people to Hell. I am sure that they’re are people who may of professed some sort of Christianity who fell away and become satanists. But I am convinced that non of them were as convinced that Jesus was who he Said He was as the people who witnessed His miracles first hand.

    Feel free to email me with questions I will pray for you. And God Will get you through this, just don’t give up.

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  • Noah Kauffman  April 28, 2019 at 9:01 pm

    Okay so I have ocd but what I’m going through is so bad and I hate to put it in words but I want to make it known what’s going on. So I saw some comment on reddit that said basically that Jesus is the devil and is deceiving everyone and stuff. As soon as I read that the doubts set in. I began to have these horrible thoughts that maybe he was right. I hated these thoughts and wanted them out, I have cried so much over this. Anyway, now whenever I try to think of Jesus, I think of that post and my mind says that He is actually satan. I don’t want to believe that because I know it’s not true, but I’m afraid that I’m starting to believe it, because whenever I think of Jesus and try to think of Him as loving and forgiving of our sins and as the messiah, my mind says “he’s deceiving you, he’s actually Satan.” I hate these thoughts, but I’m worried that I’m starting to believe it. I don’t want to do this, have I committed the unpardonable sin by believing Jesus is satan, even though I don’t want to believe that?

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    • Rebecca  April 29, 2019 at 11:00 pm

      Noah,
      If you had committed that sin, you would not have commented. Like you said, you don’t want to believe those things. You would not care if you had truly committed it. I know how ocd goes – maybe you’re thinking, “do I really care?” Don’t go down that road. It only ever makes things worse for me. My OCD tries to make me think it’s not ocd, that I’ve really committed the sin. But it is OCD, not a faith crisis.
      I understand the battle, though. I have refrained from reading the Gospels because whenever I do, I have attacks of blasphemous thoughts against Jesus and the Holy Spirit. So discouraging! But you are not alone. Jesus loves you.
      This verse has been such a comfort to me in my fear of committing the unpardonable sin.
      “All the Father gives to me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.” John 6:37
      Whoever – blasphemous thoughts or not:)

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    • Martha Chesser  April 30, 2019 at 9:52 pm

      I had an “unpardonable sin” crisis years ago. It was explained to me that the situation surrounding Jesus’s miracles was so unique (as so thoroughly explained in the previous post) that it is not possible to commit it today. It was a deliberate knowing denial of the Messiah by ascribing His prophecy fulfilling miracles to Satan. I have not had that obsession again. Wish others would go away that easily.

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